Anonymous asked:

It baffles me how you could think making Steve Rogers (a paragon of hope and virtue), comics character created by Jews and making him a Nazi is a good idea. People aren't gasping because it's a good "plot twist" people feel physically ill. It's upsetting and offensive how do the writers not care about the way people are reacting?

jordandwhiteqna answered:

Sorry you don’t like it.

But Hydra are not Nazis and were never meant to be. They used Hydra in the Cap movie so as not to have to sully that family movie with Nazi soldiers. But in the comics, they were meant to just be a rival spy organization like SPECTRE.

[sociallyanxiousdragon]

What? I know I’m not the most knowledgeable on comic book lore, but I swear Hydra = Nazi is like… a known thing? With stuff from canon comics to back it up?

[jordandwhiteqna]

Nope. Von Strucker was a Nazi and was head of Hydra for a long time, but he co-opted Hydra from Japan. They were not white supremacists, as they were not all white–they were just “might makes right” style fascists, not tied to race or religion (other than weird alien cult religion stuff).

They premiered in Nick Fury comics from the 60s, as a rival spy agency. It was during the Cold War they debuted in comics, not WWII.

[scifigamingmom]

Ok, but when the general public’s view is Hydra=Nazi, it might be best to not turn Captain Fucking America into one.

[attackoftheskydancers]

Um???

Yeah, sure, OK, not Nazis at all….

[jordandwhiteqna]

That panel seems to be the Red Skull saying that Hydra and Nazis are two different things. He was using Hydra to hide that he was doing Nazi things. He could do that, because Hydra were not thought of as a Nazi organization.

Thanks for finding that for me.